Title: Police Coast Guard
LionFlyer - June 6, 2009 11:08 AM (GMT)
Was at the Home Team Convention exhibition this afternoon at Suntec. Their next generation coastal patrol vessel have been commissioned and more boats are on the way this year. Nice and interesting video, especially on with the live firing on the Rafael's Typhoon MKII RWS 25mm canon.
What was interesting is a mock-up of STK's own RWS with a 40mm AGL at their stand. Apparently, they are doing trials with STK to fit this to their next generation patrol vessel with a 7.62mm MG
http://www.stengg.com/upload/985ghc5FKloGEgYgoJA.pdf
xtemujin - June 6, 2009 03:03 PM (GMT)
Are You Prepared to Deal With A Crisis ? Visit Home Team Exhibition !
Visit the Home Team Exhibition to be held on 6 & 7 June 2009 at Exhibition Hall 601, Suntec Singapore International Convention & Exhibition Centre.
http://www.mha.gov.sg/inFocusArticle.aspx----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's a need for the Home Team to do an open house to showcase it's functions and ability to the public one of this day.
You can still smell the freshly painted black paint.



More photos in my Flickr album.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/xtemujin/sets...57619227182559/
ChineseJunk - June 7, 2009 07:34 AM (GMT)
Thanks for the pix. Were u the official photog again? B)
This image is from a video at the PCG booth. Note that the AFV mount is different from the one in the post above. Looks like a BX roof to me.
xtemujin - June 7, 2009 03:23 PM (GMT)
CJ,
No worries bro. :D
Lol, I'm not the official photog. :ph43r: :lol:
ChineseJunk - June 8, 2009 03:58 AM (GMT)
This is the video that LionFlyer mentioned.
Mako Shark Typhoon live firingAnd here's one of a Sri Lankan Dvora that had been bested by Sea Tiger swarm tactics. Our guys have seen it.
Dvora sinking
bdique - June 8, 2009 04:05 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ChineseJunk @ Jun 7 2009, 03:34 PM) |
Thanks for the pix. Were u the official photog again? B)
This image is from a video at the PCG booth. Note that the AFV mount is different from the one in the post above. Looks like a BX roof to me.
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doesn't look like a BX, the rear trooper hatch is a solid piece of metal without the non slip coating...also the outer edge of the BX has a series of hatches used for covering the swim screen...this is absent in this AFV...
Terrex?
xtemujin - June 8, 2009 04:33 AM (GMT)
CJ,
The video is mentioned by LionFlyer. :)
Wocelot - June 10, 2009 02:12 AM (GMT)
It a wonder why their Shark Class boats are phased out so quickly, while other even older boats are still in service. Anyway, reading from Police life, these Sharks will be tasked to patrol the waters around Pedra Branca.
On a side note, the Police seems to have a liking for aussie stuff ... ...
Foxtrout8 - June 10, 2009 03:09 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wocelot @ Jun 10 2009, 10:12 AM) |
It a wonder why their Shark Class boats are phased out so quickly, while other even older boats are still in service. Anyway, reading from Police life, these Sharks will be tasked to patrol the waters around Pedra Branca.
On a side note, the Police seems to have a liking for aussie stuff ... ... |
PH (shark) class performs its missions differently as compared to the other boats. they are not selecting boats to replace with an emphasis on seniority but on how well the boats can fulfil their mission requirement. However that said, the PH class is the oldest police boat in used.
what makes you say that the SPF seems to like australian stuff?
Wocelot - June 10, 2009 08:35 AM (GMT)
Opps, my bad. PH do have the oldest hull frames, since they were transferred from the RSN from mid 90s. My point was that these PH class boats seemed to have to shortest service stint with PCG so far, of course, that partly due to their old frames, maybe?
Duno, it just givies me the feel they seem to be heading in that direction. A recent ( 2 yrs ago?) was the Tenix 4X4 APC ...
Anyway, PCG Command Crafts were built by Geraldton, Australia also. Their PC class boats were also built by another australian company.
Foxtrout8 - June 10, 2009 12:13 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wocelot @ Jun 10 2009, 04:35 PM) |
| Anyway, PCG Command Crafts were built by Geraldton, Australia also. Their PC class boats were also built by another australian company. |
yah, not just the Command crafts but the other 3rd generation boats and the PCs are by Geraldton. However these equipments are just few of many in the police service.
LionFlyer - July 17, 2009 01:49 AM (GMT)
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNew...ory_403963.htmlCoast Guard get new fleet
By Sujin Thomas
THE Police Coast Guard has acquired a new fleet of patrol boats which are bigger, faster and better armed.
The 10 new Coastal Patrol Craft, which were designed in Holland and built locally at a cost of $17 million each, will replace the current fleet which has been in service since 1993.
Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Home Affairs Mr Wong Kan Seng said the PCG's role in defending Singapore's sea borders is crucial as the country's coastline is porous and under threat of being exploited by illegal immigrants and smugglers who often change their landing spots and use decoy boats.
Speaking at the launching ceremony of the new patrol boats at PCG's Brani Base headquarters on Thursday morning, Mr Wong said: 'When detected and pursued, they use dangerous and reckless maneuvers, posing danger to themselves and our officers.'
The 10 Shark Class vessels have an extended range of being able to stay out at sea for up to three days, without refuelling, while cruising at a speed of 20 knots.
Its predecessor is only able to stay at sea for two days at the same speed.
Three vessels are currently in service and the rest will become operational by next year. They will also be used to patrol the waters off Pedra Branca.
Another new feature on board is the Typhoon MK 25 II 25mm gun - the highest calibre in the Singapore Police Force - which is controlled remotely in the vessel's bridge. It is able to hit a target 2.7km away.
Mr Wong also officiated at the opening of the PCG's Integrated Tactical Training Centre which will provide realistic training scenarios through the use of state-of-the-art simulators.
The $29 million facility allows officers to conduct high-risk training which cannot be practised at sea and spells an annual saving of $5million for the PCG



blowpipe - July 17, 2009 02:03 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Foxtrout8 @ Jun 10 2009, 08:13 PM) |
| QUOTE (Wocelot @ Jun 10 2009, 04:35 PM) | | Anyway, PCG Command Crafts were built by Geraldton, Australia also. Their PC class boats were also built by another australian company. |
yah, not just the Command crafts but the other 3rd generation boats and the PCs are by Geraldton. However these equipments are just few of many in the police service.
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I think it is just a pure concidence....No reason why they prefered aussie stuffs. perharps just that all those boats meet PCG specifications.
Sayaret - July 17, 2009 02:45 AM (GMT)
Wow!! 25mm auto gun... an improvement over the older 20mm manual Orelikons.
I would suppose this larger caliber is not only to deal with mere pirates / smugglers and other criminally inclined elements.....terrorists perhaps??!! But it could be an overall package as in it can handle more severe threats effectively plus it does not come across as a push over.....
Wonder what kind of senors it would it be equipped with....should be more powerful stuff given the increase in size, sophistication in terms of reduced manpower needed to run the vessel.....we can rest better knowing these boats will further enhance our safety... :P
valice - July 17, 2009 02:06 PM (GMT)
PVs and APVs from the RSN used to be assigned to patrolling around the Rock. With the sea state there, PCG definitely need the new boats, relieving the RSN from doing those sort of patrol.
Also, the 25mm is probably necessary, given the "incidents" that occurs in that area.
I believe we are seeing the Police Coast Guard being given more of the coastal patrol work and the RSN heading further out into MS and beyond the rock.
xtemujin - July 17, 2009 02:25 PM (GMT)
IIRC, on the PCG model, it was stated that Damen Schelde was the shipbuilder.

bdique - July 17, 2009 05:28 PM (GMT)
worth nothing that the 25mm barrel is a fluted one (nearly mistook it for a 30mm!), possibly the first to be used in SG? the other 25mms used on our AFVs are the standard barrel...
btw Today newspaper reported it as being equipped with 28mm autocannons...OVERKILL!!! :lol:
LionFlyer - July 18, 2009 04:04 AM (GMT)
http://www.stengg.com/pressroom/press_rele...d.aspx?paid=985ST Electronics’ Subsidiary Wins Electro-Optics Project For Police Coast Guard Vessels
Singapore, 28 June 2006 - Singapore Technologies Electronics Limited (ST Electronics) has, through its subsidiary, STELOP Pte Ltd (STELOP), been awarded a $11.8m contract by the Ministry of Home Affairs for supply of electro-optics (EO) payloads on Police Coast Guard vessels. ST Electronics is the electronics arm of Singapore Technologies Engineering Ltd (ST Engineering).
http://www.stee.com.sg/newsrm/Vol21No2/Solutions2.pdfhttp://www.rafael.co.il/marketing/SIP_STOR...FILES/1/941.pdf
Iowa_BB61 - April 30, 2010 09:28 AM (GMT)
The news on the police workplan seminar yesterday showed a model of a ocean going PCG mobile helicopter platform with a S-70B on it.
Alfie007 - April 30, 2010 12:08 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Iowa_BB61 @ Apr 30 2010, 05:28 PM) |
| The news on the police workplan seminar yesterday showed a model of a ocean going PCG mobile helicopter platform with a S-70B on it. |
Wow shiok.. got photo or links, bro??
kilroy - April 30, 2010 01:40 PM (GMT)
here's a picture of the seaborne command & control centre scanned from Zaobao

and here's link to the report
http://www.zaobao.com/sp/sp100430_001.shtml
Alfie007 - April 30, 2010 01:57 PM (GMT)
Thanks.. So we'll have 2 of these in our waters.. Nice, probably can see a model of it at Home Team Convention 2010.. :rolleyes:
Wocelot - April 30, 2010 02:39 PM (GMT)
Ok, here's the short translation:
Lenght: 80m
Width: 30m
Weight: 4500 tons
Helipad included
4 storeys for C&C Ops
Boat will have Berths for boarding/alighting
and it will also have steering controls.
Basically, I suppose this will phase out their Command vessels. But who will build this, and expected deliveries of such vessels? Also, they got enough manpower for this meh? ANd this design model is fulgy, i hope the real thing will look like some transformer, :P
bdique - April 30, 2010 03:01 PM (GMT)
wow, I can see a lot of market potential for this platform...slap on a few USVs and we've got ourselves a pretty kickass platform...
hell, RSN can even use something like this ala
Operation Prime Chance...sure it looks bad but the pain it dishes out to pirates has gotta be worse!
bdique - April 30, 2010 03:02 PM (GMT)
wow, I can see a lot of market potential for this platform...slap on a few USVs and we've got ourselves a pretty kickass platform...
hell, RSN can even use something like this ala
Operation Prime Chance...sure it looks bad but the pain it dishes out to pirates has gotta be worse!
Ceratos - April 30, 2010 03:45 PM (GMT)
Look like a carrier to me...
edwin3060 - April 30, 2010 03:57 PM (GMT)
Doesn't really look like a blue water ship to me... at least from the graphics. Maybe the actual platform will be different.
Alfie007 - April 30, 2010 04:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wocelot @ Apr 30 2010, 10:39 PM) |
Basically, I suppose this will phase out their Command vessels. But who will build this, and expected deliveries of such vessels? Also, they got enough manpower for this meh? ANd this design model is fulgy, i hope the real thing will look like some transformer, :P |
If really manpower shortage, then probably PCG could leverage on USVs in which the Damen StanPatrol 3507 New Coastal Patrol Crafts can act as "motherships"..
bcoy - April 30, 2010 04:49 PM (GMT)
We already have something similar - the floating platform/football field at Marina Bay.
The Police ones look like large pontoons with a control tower. A mobile island.
xtemujin - May 1, 2010 09:37 AM (GMT)
I don't understand the need for a seaborne command and control centre as our coast line is not that big.
Is there going to be a police wing with the heliport ?
diCam - May 1, 2010 10:23 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (xtemujin @ May 1 2010, 05:37 PM) |
I don't understand the need for a seaborne command and control centre as our coast line is not that big.
Is there going to be a police wing with the heliport ? |
It could be used for offshore observation and forward deployment, one on each side of the island. The platform is big and can be anchored. Helicopter can be stationed there for immediate deployment.
There are a lot of uses for such platform. Think about it. Army, RSN and RSAF...?
PCG ownership is better than SAF. Less political sensitivity
:rolleyes:
kilroy - May 1, 2010 10:54 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (edwin3060 @ Apr 30 2010, 11:57 PM) |
| Doesn't really look like a blue water ship to me... at least from the graphics. Maybe the actual platform will be different. |
according to the Zaobao report, the C&C barge will be deployed near international waters.
bdique - May 1, 2010 03:27 PM (GMT)
guess the helipad can be used as a mobile offshore base for our S-70s or whatever chopper suitable for policing these waters, can have increased presence since no need to go back to the mainland to refuel, rearm?
catching pirates easier, can faster interrogate them on the platform, no need to send back to mainland :P
Wocelot - May 1, 2010 05:05 PM (GMT)
Say, I suppose one will be based near Pedra Branca, and the other at the Malacca Straits the. Still, this area is still very crowded with ships. Not sure where such a barge/vessel/Command Post can be sited at. Faster Response time would be the advatange.
There has not been any pirate intrusion into STW since 1993(IIRC???). Neither would illegal immigrants (II) come in via Straits of Singapore. I guess the command post will be more of a prevention than a action sort.
And David has his two cents worth on his blog already. B)
tankee1981 - May 1, 2010 05:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (diCam @ May 1 2010, 06:23 PM) |
| QUOTE (xtemujin @ May 1 2010, 05:37 PM) | I don't understand the need for a seaborne command and control centre as our coast line is not that big.
Is there going to be a police wing with the heliport ? |
It could be used for offshore observation and forward deployment, one on each side of the island. The platform is big and can be anchored. Helicopter can be stationed there for immediate deployment.
There are a lot of uses for such platform. Think about it. Army, RSN and RSAF...?
PCG ownership is better than SAF. Less political sensitivity
:rolleyes:
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I cannot agree more with diCam about the political sensitivity issue, after all it does seems like a 'micro- carrier' of sorts.
Don't think PCG going to have their air wing, i mean strictly speaking even the RSN don't have one. From the graphics the helicopter is painted in RSAF naval colours like the Seahawks.
|-|05| - May 1, 2010 06:17 PM (GMT)
that thing is...ugly
i hope they moor it at some island so it's not that bad sticking out so badly lol
stars - May 1, 2010 07:26 PM (GMT)
remembered on the lalee thread that we were considering blimps for persistent ISR observation of the straits.
this platform is great ! rig a balloon up and tether it to the platform, rig up a decent sensor payload and u can effectively see everything thats going on for miles around. plus with advances in UAV see, observe and pattern identification programs, this would really be an eye in the sky.
tankee1981 - May 1, 2010 08:39 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (stars @ May 2 2010, 03:26 AM) |
remembered on the lalee thread that we were considering blimps for persistent ISR observation of the straits.
this platform is great ! rig a balloon up and tether it to the platform, rig up a decent sensor payload and u can effectively see everything thats going on for miles around. plus with advances in UAV see, observe and pattern identification programs, this would really be an eye in the sky. |
With this platform, it will be like having many mobile 'Pedra Brancas'!
Speaking of which, by having Pedra Branca being officially and internationally recognised as part of SG, will our maritime borders be redrawn?
Alfie007 - May 2, 2010 02:09 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (tankee1981 @ May 2 2010, 04:39 AM) |
With this platform, it will be like having many mobile 'Pedra Brancas'!
Speaking of which, by having Pedra Branca being officially and internationally recognised as part of SG, will our maritime borders be redrawn? |

These are the sea territory boundaries based on continental shelf (sorry don't have a larger resolution), but waters around Pedra Branca are still pending for demarcation, & no thanks to Middle Rocks being awarded to MY as things will get complicated.. The sovereignty of South Ledge will be depend on which waters it falls in after demarcation.. Indonesia might be consulted as well as there would be some overlapping..
After losing Pedra Branca, I recall that MY stressed that rocks command no sea territory, hence saying that Pedra Branca is a rock too.. They are playing dirty after the ICJ results.. Before the ICJ ruling, they call Pedra Branca as Pulau Batu Putih, but after the ICJ ruling, they degrade it to Batu Putih, removing the "Pulau" which means Island in Malay.. Batu Putih means white rock, which is the direct translation of Pedra Branca..
spiderweb6969 - May 2, 2010 06:22 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Alfie007 @ May 2 2010, 10:09 AM) |
| QUOTE (tankee1981 @ May 2 2010, 04:39 AM) | With this platform, it will be like having many mobile 'Pedra Brancas'!
Speaking of which, by having Pedra Branca being officially and internationally recognised as part of SG, will our maritime borders be redrawn? |
 These are the sea territory boundaries based on continental shelf (sorry don't have a larger resolution), but waters around Pedra Branca are still pending for demarcation, & no thanks to Middle Rocks being awarded to MY as things will get complicated.. The sovereignty of South Ledge will be depend on which waters it falls in after demarcation.. Indonesia might be consulted as well as there would be some overlapping.. After losing Pedra Branca, I recall that MY stressed that rocks command no sea territory, hence saying that Pedra Branca is a rock too.. They are playing dirty after the ICJ results.. Before the ICJ ruling, they call Pedra Branca as Pulau Batu Putih, but after the ICJ ruling, they degrade it to Batu Putih, removing the "Pulau" which means Island in Malay.. Batu Putih means white rock, which is the direct translation of Pedra Branca.. |
dont worry about that as their records since 1979 say it's a Pulau, so they are still shooting at their own foot...they only make the judges laughing to the floor, what are you talking? last time say pulau now you say it's a batu....