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Title: Military Nuts posting guidelines (Please read!!)


Viper52 - June 11, 2004 05:11 AM (GMT)
Dear Military Nuts,

Due to the nature of the topics being discussed on Military Nuts, we urge posters to exercise discretion when discussing issues which might have implications beyond this forum. This is especially true regarding restricted information on military doctrine and equipment.

In addition to the usual Netiquette requirements, please abide by the following guidelines before posting

1) Please refrain from posting information about restricted doctrine and equipment which are not in public domain. If it’s supposed to be classified, let it STAY classified!

2) Public domain information should be accompanied by the source of information. At the very least, references should ideally include the name of the publication as well as the date of the publication (Month/Year), or a link the full URL should it come from a website. And no, information from material restricted to MINDEF personnel doesn’t count as public domain information!

3) Separate facts from rumours. If you’ve been told about something your friend’s brother girlfriends’ brother heard/saw, state it as such. In addition, if what you’ve been told is supposed to be classified, rule (1) applies

4) Mobilisation Codes: These are considered Restricted Information. Please do not discuss these, particularly in the context of linking such codes to units/formations. Err on the side of caution, do not discuss them at all!

5) It is often tempting to tell everyone how much you know or about what you are. Or drop hints, clues and make innuendos to that effect, when you’re not supposed to. DON’T. You might be giving away more than you think!

Spamming/Advertising
All unsolicited and unapproved advertisements, whether military-related or not, will be deleted immediately along with the account of the member responsible for posting the ad. Should you want to post an advertisement of a commercial nature (related to this forum), please approach any of the Administrators/Moderators via Private Messaging to work out an arrangement.

The moderating team strives to maintain Military Nuts as a forum to discuss all things military including that of Singapore’s, without compromising Singapore’s national security at the same time. As such we will not hesitate to remove any thread or posting which contravenes these guidelines. However, that is, and always will be, a last resort, and we’ll prefer posters to exercise their own discretion to us exercising it on their behalf.

We request your cooperation and understanding on this issue. Should you have any queries regarding these guidelines, please feel free to approach any of us via a Private Message. Thank you,

Viper52
For the Moderators of Military Nuts

MSD - August 12, 2004 09:13 AM (GMT)
Please read.

FYI - the Official Secrets Act reads:

"section 5. —(1) If any person having in his possession or control any secret official code word, countersign or password, or any photograph, drawing, plan, model, article, note, document or information which —

(a) relates to or is used in a prohibited place or anything in such a place;

(b) relates to munitions of war;

© has been made or obtained in contravention of this Act;

(d) has been entrusted in confidence to him by any person holding office under the Government; or

(e) he has obtained, or to which he has had access, owing to his position as a person who holds or has held office under the Government, or as a person who holds, or has held a contract made on behalf of the Government or any specified organisation, or as a person who is or has been employed under a person who holds or has held such an office or contract,

does any of the following:

(i) communicates directly or indirectly any such information or thing as aforesaid to any foreign Power other than a foreign Power to whom he is duly authorised to communicate it, or to any person other than a person to whom he is authorised to communicate it or to whom it is his duty to communicate it;

(ii) uses any such information or thing as aforesaid for the benefit of any foreign Power other than a foreign Power for whose benefit he is authorised to use it, or in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interests of Singapore;

(iii) retains in his possession or control any such thing as aforesaid when he has no right to retain it, or when it is contrary to his duty to retain it, or fails to comply with all lawful directions issued by lawful authority with regard to the return or disposal thereof; or

(iv) fails to take reasonable care of, or so conducts himself as to endanger the safety or secrecy of, any such information or thing as aforesaid,

that person shall be guilty of an offence."

Don't forget the 'SAF Act', Cap 295 as well as the 'Penal Code', Cap 224 and yes, even the 'Computer Misue Act', Cap 50a (if you lifted the information without permission) can be used to throw the book at the mis-informed.

ChineseJunk - August 12, 2004 10:51 AM (GMT)
Hey MSD,
If you're trying to get a higher rank, you must post something intelligent lah.

Please don't try to "kelong" the system by posting the same old stuff eight times on the same day on different discussion threads with your cheap, unimaginative Gestapo-style scare tactics.

Are you trying to be the first BG on this forum?!!!!!!

By the way, there are posting guidelines which forumers have seen and respected (most of the time :huh: ) and moderators have jumped in as and when necessary. The point about sensitive information has been raised and discussed before, and measures taken to crimp over-enthusiastic postings.

I hope you understand what I am trying to say because I don't think you want me to repeat it in Hokkien.



YourFather - August 12, 2004 11:08 AM (GMT)
Dunno what is he trying to do....... No one has posted any sensitive info here .....and as you said, the moderators have always done an an excellent job. All of a sudden come and extra, tsk tsk, dunno for what......
:rolleyes:

Viper52 - August 12, 2004 12:38 PM (GMT)
You're a real genius my friend, other than a lame attempt to bump up your own rank I can see no other reason for posting the same things on so many threads. The info you've posted is useful, but crossposting them onto so many threads is simply pathetic.

Thanks CJ and YourFather, I've removed the crossposting and will merge this thread onto the Posting Guidelines thread.

Obersturmfuhrer - August 12, 2004 12:39 PM (GMT)
This is a sensible, if not informative, post. It should be viewed as a more detailed version of the forum guideline. Gives you no excuse to play with fire.

Viper52 - December 15, 2005 12:37 PM (GMT)
A story in the national newspaper a while back, just in case anyone thinks this forum is an online Wild West, think again!

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http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/singapore...,244214,00.html?

Pssst... Strike Eagle just streaked by!

Military enthusiasts update each other on the Net but there is self-policing; also Mindef makes regular visits for feedback

By David Boey

THE Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) has yet to unveil a replacement for its Crossbow light anti-tank weapon, but an Internet forum called Military Nuts has been abuzz with talk that the army may soon unveil a tank-busting rocket called Matador.

Days after February's Asian Aerospace air show, aircraft enthusiasts kept some Internet chatrooms busy with reports of having sighted fighter jets like the American F-15 Strike Eagle and French Rafale thundering across Singapore, presumably on trials being conducted by the Republic of Singapore Air Force.

Net-based defence forums are popular among military enthusiasts who wish to keep one another posted on new developments. They engage in lively discussions on military topics - from the value of national service to the purchase of new equipment.

And the people who read these comments include big shots from the Ministry of Defence.

The ministry said it welcomes Internet discussions on defence subjects, but cautioned that classified information should not be aired on the Net.


There is a healthy amount of self-policing by most defence forum moderators, to ensure that sensitive information like SAF code words or information on weapons are not flashed on the Net.

One of Military Nuts' moderators, a 28-year-old aeronautical engineer who goes by the screen name Viper52, said those who post messages are urged 'to exercise discretion when discussing issues which might have implications beyond this forum'.

He said: 'This is especially true regarding restricted information on military doctrine and equipment.'

Mindef said that it makes regular visits to such sites, to 'gather feedback'.

Colonel Bernard Toh, a spokesman for the ministry, said: 'National service is a shared experience, so it is natural that our servicemen, both full-time national servicemen and NSmen, take an interest in defence matters and discuss them, including on the Internet.

'Mindef follows public discussions on defence issues and we also gather feedback.'

Col Toh said SAF servicemen are free to take part in Internet discussions, but are reminded 'that they have security obligations when discussing defence matters - in whatever medium'.

He added that most Singaporeans are responsible and careful about what they post on the Net, as they 'understand the need to observe security in defence matters'.

So far, no one has run afoul of the law, but The Straits Times understands that some servicemen have been advised to tone down their postings.

'If there are security breaches, the appropriate action could range from advice to disciplinary action, depending on their seriousness,' said Col Toh.



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