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Posted: Nov 21 2010, 12:22 PM

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Date Posted: 19-Nov-2010

Jane's Navy International

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ST Marine unveils Thai LPD details
Mrityunjoy Mazumdar

Singapore Technologies (ST) Marine has released details of the landing platform dock (LPD) ship that the company is building for the Royal Thai Navy (RTN).

A model displayed by ST Marine at the Euronaval 2010 exhibition in Paris depicted a vessel similar to the Republic of Singapore Navy's (RSN's) Endurance-class landing ship tank. However, there is a key difference in the deletion of the bow ramp and its replacement with a starboard side door and ramp (about 6 m wide), providing access for light vehicles and personnel.

Construction of the Thai LPD started in mid-2009 and delivery is scheduled for the second half of 2012. The procurement contract is valued at about USD135 million and included an order for two 23 m Fast Craft Utility (FCUs) and two 13 m Landing Craft Vehicle and Personnel (LCVPs).

The two FCUs (or Landing Craft Mechanised) are accommodated in a stern dock while the two LCVPs (or Fast Craft Equipment and Utility) are mounted on davits either side of the superstructure.

The propulsion system includes two Caterpillar C280-12 diesel engines, each rated at 4060 kW, driving two controllable pitch propellers. A bow thruster is also fitted. Maximum speed is listed as 17 kt and range at 12 kt is greater than 5000 n miles. Electrical power is provided by four Caterpillar 3512B 900 kW gensets.

Terma is providing its C-Flex combat management system initially with three multifunction consoles, a C-Search radar and sensor suite (including a SCANTER 4100 air and surface surveillance radar and combined identification, friend-or-foe system) and a C-Fire electro-optical director with thermal imaging, TV camera and eye-safe laser rangefinder.

Armament comprises an Oto Melara 76 mm Super Rapid gun forward and what appear to be two MSI Seahawk 30 mm mounts amidships. A single machine-gun mount is fitted on either bridge wing.

The LPD's load-carrying capacity is estimated to be in excess of 1,000 tons, given that its deadweight (displacement including the crew, passengers, cargo, fuel, water and stores less the lightship weight) is approximately 1,600 tons. A force of more than 300 troops can be embarked.

For comparison, each of the four Endurance-class ships can reportedly embark 18 main battle tanks, 20 trucks or infantry fighting vehicles plus around 350 troops. The RSN vessels have an overall length of 141 m, beam of 21 m, draught of 5 m and a full load displacement of about 8,500 tons.

The Thai LPD has a ship's company of 120 personnel (plus 15 in the embarked air group), which is almost twice as many as the RSN vessel and suggests that the level of systems automation in the new ship is inferior to the Endurance class.

Any idea, the Thai purchase come with the CCC integrated systems package?

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tankee1981	Posted: Nov 25 2010, 10:44 PM
Captain Group: Members Posts: 1,040 Member No.: 120 Joined: 14-March 05	Its official, Warthog is now being used in Afganistan by the British! New Warthog vehicle in Afganistan 23/11/10

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Posted: Nov 25 2010, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE (tankee1981 @ Nov 25 2010, 10:44 PM)

Its official, Warthog is now being used in Afganistan by the British!

New Warthog vehicle in Afganistan 23/11/10

How come I can't view it??

Is the url address is correct??

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xtemujin	Posted: Nov 25 2010, 11:15 PM
Major Group: Members Posts: 2,287 Member No.: 15,375 Joined: 5-June 08	Here's the link bro. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIVw9zvNKOU -------------------- Individual skill is another important factor, argues Professor Bernard Loo, a defence analyst at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies. �A half-past-six weapon in the hands of a skilled operator is better than a top-notch weapon in the hands of a half-trained monkey,� he says.

Alfie007	Posted: Nov 25 2010, 11:16 PM
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FIVE-TWO	Posted: Nov 26 2010, 12:24 AM
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tankee1981	Posted: Nov 26 2010, 01:32 AM
Captain Group: Members Posts: 1,040 Member No.: 120 Joined: 14-March 05	Thanks for the working link!

bdique	Posted: Nov 26 2010, 11:39 AM
Captain Group: Members Posts: 1,584 Member No.: 20,323 Joined: 12-December 08	curious to know what the teething problems are, and a bit surprised to hear that they found the warthog less mobile...but otherwise this is a very proud day for me -------------------- From the gunner's seat: The Green and Black Screen

FIVE-TWO	Posted: Nov 26 2010, 11:43 AM
Major Group: Members Posts: 2,796 Member No.: 14,635 Joined: 25-May 08	I guess with all the weight it has, mobility would be impacted even if it has more power per ton. my real question is: would a fleet of Bionix (or equivalent) been of more use in the fight than Viking/Broncos? This post has been edited by FIVE-TWO on Nov 26 2010, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE (FIVE-TWO @ Nov 26 2010, 11:43 AM)

I guess with all the weight it has, mobility would be impacted even if it has more power per ton.

my real question is: would a fleet of Bionix (or equivalent) been of more use in the fight than Viking/Broncos?

Bionix? Another way to put it is 'firepower from a Bushmaster autocannon versus a GPMG/Browning HMG?' I think the answer is quite clear to me

However possibly one of the reasons why the more fiercer-looking vehicles has not been employed:

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The Marines had wanted to take tanks into Afghanistan when they began deploying in large numbers in spring 2009, but the top coalition commander then, Army Gen. David D. McKiernan, rejected the request, in part because of concern it could remind Afghans of the tank-heavy Soviet occupation in the 1980s.

From Washington Post

That being said, several other European nations have employed IFVs to great effect, namely the CV90 family and even M113 armed with 25mm Bushmaster autocannon. UK should have other IFVs in the A'stan (the Warrior IFV) but from what I gather the protection against IEDs isn't enough. Warthogs are probably more value-for-money than upgrading/expanding the Warrior fleet.

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i_love_my_toilet	Posted: Nov 27 2010, 12:59 AM
2nd Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 112 Member No.: 21,090 Joined: 28-June 09	Well, Warthog is an enhanced Bronco to suit conditions in Afghanistan. Not sure about whether Bionix is designed for conditions in Afghanistan. Next is mobility, there are places Warthog (all terrain vehicle) can go whereas heavier vehicles cannot. Lastly, specific capabilities whereby Warthog can meet specific requirements of the British in Afghanistan. Looking forward to see the rest of the variants in the news!

weasel1962	Posted: Dec 8 2010, 02:59 PM
Major Group: Members Posts: 2,599 Member No.: 19,860 Joined: 9-November 08	Warthog survived an actual IED hit... http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=5183706&c=EUR&s=LAN Looks like the selling point can now include tested in combat. Positive from the users...press release 7 Dec 10 http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceN...thogVehicle.htm This post has been edited by weasel1962 on Dec 8 2010, 03:04 PM

FIVE-TWO	Posted: Dec 8 2010, 04:39 PM
Major Group: Members Posts: 2,796 Member No.: 14,635 Joined: 25-May 08	a follow-on order would be a real endorsement.

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Posted: Dec 9 2010, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE (FIVE-TWO @ Dec 8 2010, 04:39 PM)

a follow-on order would be a real endorsement.

British Army just gave us what was probably the best marketing needed. Worth noting is that the whole thing took abt 2 years to put together, which I thought was a pretty quick time needed to develop something combat ready.

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Joe Black	Posted: Dec 9 2010, 11:33 AM
Captain Group: Members Posts: 1,221 Member No.: 34 Joined: 17-June 04	What would be even better if SAF deploy Warthog themselves in Afghanistan!

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